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December 2, 2001 at 10:13 am #615
Is there any known issues with firewalls? Some people have been informing me that the chat window loads fine but it hangs at connecting to Milwaukee….
Just curious….
Karman
The S.O.U.L. center
“There are many paths to the top of the mountain, but the view is always the same.”
Karman "There are many paths to the top of the mountain, but the view is always the same."December 2, 2001 at 1:28 pm #616Yes there are some issues. When a person connects to the chat servers they are scanned for open, unsecured proxies such as Socks 4/5 and Wingate. These proxies can be used to hide a person’s true IP address. If the person is using this to connect to the chat servers they are denied access. This is done for the security of the users on the network.
I myself use ZoneAlarm Pro for a firewall. Of the other firewalls I have used they all have delayed my connect times to the chat servers. Since the chat server is scanning the common proxie ports it’s scanning is slowed down because it recieves no reply from the computer that’s connecting. (well with ZoneAlarm Pro it recieves no reply, other firewalls may not use “stealth” port protection) So the chat server doesn’t know that there is really a computer on the other side that it’s scanning. There is a set time limit for each port and once that time limit is reached it moves on to the next port. Some firewalls respond with a “Yes there is a port here but no it’s closed” and with this type of firewall the scan goes much quicker. The chat server sees the port and gets the “it’s closed answer” and moves on to the next one instead of timing out and then moving on to the next port.
What firewall is better? Personaly, I prefer ZoneAlarm. It’s stealth protection makes it much harder for anyone to see my computer while I’m online. What I did with ZoneAlarm was add the chat server’s IP addresses to the ‘Local Area Network’ list so that they are in the ‘trusted’ list. Then the connect times are as quick as not having a firewall because the chat servers are not blocked from scanning my computer.
Here is a great source of information on computer security and other related issues:
The ZoneAlarm Pro firewall I use can be found here:
The price for the firewall is very competitive and well worth it. There is also a free version but I am not sure if the ability to add local area network IP address is included with the free version.
I hope this helped. As far as not being able to connect try waiting for at least 5 minutes before giving up. Five minutes may seem like forever but depending on network traffic it may even be a bit longer or shorter. You should eventualy connect though.
One other thing to keep in mind: If a person that is using a firewall get’s a warning about the scan and adds the IP address to a list of blocked addresses in firewalls that offer that feature they will probably not be able to connect unless the firewall is off or they remove that IP address.
Ok now I’m done… I do hope this helped.
Nothing rhymes with Cindy Crawford after 9 coronas...December 9, 2001 at 4:19 am #619Okay, thank you. I use the free version of Zonealarm myself, and there is no setting to add an individual ip address, but I don’t seem to have a problem connecting. I have it set to ask each time if I want ie to act as a server and no problems. I also have read extensively the grc.com site! Sometime ago. Was shocked to see that someone else new of that site!
Anyways, thanks for the info.
Karman
The S.O.U.L. center
“There are many paths to the top of the mountain, but the view is always the same.”
Karman "There are many paths to the top of the mountain, but the view is always the same."January 11, 2002 at 12:09 am #665Hi,
Is there any know problems using nt firewalls?
The same thing is happing to me it is hang up the phone or wire line in my case after Milwaukee…. is there anything I can do? I love your site but only if it works…lol
Thanks,
Matt aka matt98
Thanks,Matt F.January 11, 2002 at 3:06 am #666Hi Matt,
I’m not sure what an NT firewall is but if it allows you to add IP addresses as “local” networks and then they should be “trusted” and you should be able to access the services. If that’s the case then add the IP addresses of Milwaukee and Area51 to your local area network IP list.
I do believe Windows XP has a built in firewall? Is this the OS your using? If so I don’t even have a good guess as to what to do then… lol
I’m running Win2K (NT5) and have not seen any reference for firewalls to use.
To sum things up, a firewall does affect your outgoing/incoming connections. If your having problems connecting it could very well be the reason.
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