Just a few more thoughts. Clear your cache/temporary internet files. Not sure what the steps are for safari though. Then if you have both the login box and the ‘click to chat’ link on your page give the link a try. I have been testing in firebird and it seems to work sometimes and not others. Also, try creating/using a login that loads into the same page. This seems to work more often in firebird than the other routes. I am going to work on a new login script this weekend. I *think* I know a way around the current problem. It isn’t a fix though. Just an avoidance.