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October 23, 2003 at 2:20 pm #2383

Dave
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Scandinavia, WI

Not.

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Thanks to the efforts of GWB the cost of getting a home has jumped about $5,000 dollars here where I live. My brother is the one looking to purchase a new home and this is the information he’s relayed to me. The increase is in relation to the price of OSB (oriented strand board) and plywood. I guess it’s being shipped out to Iraq to help rebuild the stuff we blew up. How wonderful.

Now not only is the economy sucking it costs more for a home. Low interest rates? Yes they are nice but if people don’t have a job they wont do them much good. I sincerely hope the rest of America is as sick of the current situation as I am and gives you the boot this next election season.

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October 26, 2003 at 7:03 pm #2400

Misty
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NY

But, did you know that with that wood they are sending to Irag, they are rebuilding homes, hospitals and school buildings? We destroyed the things and we wanted them to be free and get educated. With out school buildings and so on, how can they do that?

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October 26, 2003 at 8:32 pm #2403

Dave
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Scandinavia, WI

Yes it’s nice that we are able to help those we step on but this is at the expense of of JoeAverage American? I just find it rather idiotic in that even after 9/11 we weren’t *that bad off* economy wise. No, not untill GWB starts looking for evil doers in that axis of evil blah blah blah blah blah jargon that spews out of him. Now we have a budget debt instead of a surplus, we have more out of work Americans (also do to the wonderful overseas outsourcing) and very little reason to think it’s going to get better anytime soon.

LoL I’m just tired of this downhill slide America is in.

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October 31, 2003 at 6:46 pm #2433

slayer60
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New Boston, NH, USA

I agree. Bush shouldn’t even be president. I’m not really a Gore man, but I think the country would be in better shape if he had won. The whole Florida election thing reaally sucked. There’s something wrong when you can’t count the votes twice and get the same numbers. Its funny that that contriversy happened in the state where Bush’s family member was in charge. I really wanted McCain to be President. I think he could have gotten a clear majority and done a good job.

We really shouldn’t have been in Iraq. It was a total setup. Bush demands that Saddam turn over WofMD that he knows that Saddam most likely doesn’t have or we invade. So, we invade. A very bad thing. This kind of thing is very bad for the US in the global marketplace, in addition to all the cash outlay to support the “rebuilding” of Iraq.

I too hope that we won’t have 4 more years of the Bush war machine.

Sorry for my spelling and gramar. I don’t know whats with my gramar skills today.

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October 31, 2003 at 7:19 pm #2434

Dave
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Scandinavia, WI

LoL don’t worry about the spellings… I don’t. (that way Alisha has something to correct me on) LoL

Bush is overlooking the needs of the people, plain and simple. Tax rebate? great we can pay half a month’s mortgage or cover the cost of hot lunch for a month for our kids. All he does is provide tokens of amusement in hope that it gets his butt re-elected.

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November 6, 2003 at 3:08 am #2482

wardog79
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ew boo hoo, I’M not getting enough money back! I don’t want us in Iraq!

Quit your whinig! Got some news for ya. You ain’t in Iraq. Real men and women, with the courage to fight and sacrifice for thier (and your) freedom are there while you sit here whining about how hard you have.

Oh yeah and when was the last time you got any money back from a Democrat president? Couldn’t just take the check and enjoy it could you? Maybe buy your wife or kid somthing and do something good with it. ya just had to find some way to WHINE about how the president was screwing you by not giving YOU enough. ME! ME! ME!

Grow up and get over yourself!

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November 6, 2003 at 3:12 pm #2487

Dave
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Scandinavia, WI

Listen, stupid. Been there Done that. I spent 4 years serving in the US Army. I was prepared to die for my country at the time. Now that I have children I don’t think I could be an affective soldier because I would fear death as far as missing see them grow up.

Don’t lecture me about your patriotic BS. Please go back to the rock you crawled out from under. Thank you.

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November 13, 2003 at 10:14 pm #2538

Dave
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Scandinavia, WI

Just read an article with some points I thought fitting.

LA Weekly interview with Gore Vidal

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January 14, 2004 at 5:18 pm #2840

NormS
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Thanks to GW millions of Iraqis are free, no more are being tortured, raped or killed, Saddam is caught and never again will be free to pillage his own people and threaten the world. Iran, North Korea and Libya have backed off on their weapons programs since we finally (after 8 years of wimping out under Slick Willys rule) showed backbone. Lybia specifically said they are stopping because of what we have done in Iraq. Lets see, the economy is coming back with a roar, the stock market has recoverd most of its losses from the last two years (caused by Slick Willy’s recession – documented start date: while he was still in office) job growth, which always lags rebounds in the economy is starting to come back, taxes are lower (saving you that $5,000 to build a new house). Hmmmm, I sure don’t see anything not to thank GW for here. And Dave, can you seriously say that you would vote for any of the monkeys in the Dem. primary??? These guys are clueless and if any one of them gets in say good bye to that tax saving you now enjoy. The price of plywood will come back down as soon as the supply catches up with demand then that $5000 you say it costs extra will no longer be there. C’mon Dave…..

Norm

January 15, 2004 at 2:35 am #2849

Dave
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Scandinavia, WI

Hi Norm,

I’m not going to argue with you as we both have our oppinions. But, here’s some information I thought of interest:

smh.com.au, October 21, 2003:

The United States announced today a record $US374 billion ($A540 billion) budget deficit in 2003, the largest shortfall in history but smaller than had been feared.

washingtonpost.com, Friday, January 9, 2004:

The state of the economy is also a concern in southwest Iowa’s cattle country. “It’s hard to be a fan of President Bush when you look at the unemployment around here,” said Dave Antisdel, a farmer from nearby Prescott, who sold 11 of his 15 cattle Tuesday. “People are losing jobs all the time, and I don’t see any sign that he knows what to do about it. Of course, his friends are all doing okay, so why should he — .”

Australian Financial Review, January 5, 2004:

The “war” against terrorism is equally problematic. After swiftly routing the Taliban regime and al-Qaeda forces in 2001, the administration allowed Afghanistan to regress towards a state of lawlessness and instability. Iraq has proven much more difficult to stabilise than anticipated by White House and Pentagon planners, and the rising human and financial costs accompany only halting progress against the insurgency despite the capture of Saddam Hussein.

cnnmoney, December 5, 2003:

“Millions of American workers still do not have jobs, and our nation has lost more jobs under the Bush administration than under any president since Hoover,” said AFL-CIO President John Sweeney

Bureau of labor statistics, DECEMBER 2003:

The number of unemployed persons was 8.4 million in December and the unemployment rate was 5.7 percent. Both measures continued to edge down from their recent highs in June 2003. In December, the unemployment rates for adult men (5.3 percent) and Hispanics or Latinos (6.6 percent) declined. The jobless rates for the other major worker groups–adult women (5.1 percent), teenagers (16.1 percent), whites (5.0 percent), and blacks (10.3 percent)–showed little or no change from the previous month. The unemployment rate for Asians was 5.3 percent in December, not seasonally adjusted.

The Progressive, October 2003:

We have lost around 2.6 million jobs since he took office, and about 650,000 just since the 2002 election. In the face of this, the bulk of the Bush tax cuts went, notoriously, to the very wealthy, whose spending is little affected. Many middle class Americans will get hit by rising property and sales taxes–at the state and local level. And meanwhile, Bush is bent on eroding pay and working conditions, with the most recent outrage being the assault on fair labor standards affecting overtime. As for the minimum wage? Forget about it.

The Salt Lake Tribune, January 2003:

According to the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, the effect of eliminating dividend taxation is that the average benefit for those making less than $10,000 would be $6, and the average benefit for those making more than $1 million would be $45,098. Quick, high-schoolers, let’s practice up for the those SATs by figuring out by what percentage $45,098 is bigger than $6

Gardian Unlimited, December 10, 2003:

North Korea has offered to freeze its nuclear weapons programme if the US lifts economic sanctions, provides fuel aid, and removes its name from a list of state sponsors of terrorism. But President Bush promptly rejected the overture, saying he wanted Pyongyang to scrap, not suspend, its atomic weapons plans.

Personally I believe that chosing a president is more or less chosing between the lessor of two evils. Looking back on things though, I find I was doing much better while a democrat was in the office. On the other hand, while I was in the military, I did better under Reagan. (who I still admire for various reasons but even his own son has stated that ‘trickle down economics’ didn’t work)

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February 19, 2004 at 3:59 am #3036

2fly2touch
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not only is the economy sucking

Interesting. The economy sucks now because houses are more expensive than previously? Last I checked, houses increase in price regularly for varied reasons, at least where I live…

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February 19, 2004 at 4:41 am #3037

Dave
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Scandinavia, WI

Actually the cost of the building material used in the construction of the house went up so it’s passed on to the buyer. Reason? Because we needed the lumber to rebuild everything we blew up in Iraq. But, I believe the building material is down again? I don’t know though, haven’t checked in a while.

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February 19, 2004 at 9:44 pm #3043

p_pressure
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Try living in the UK

Mortgage rate is 6% Very small 3 bedroom house about £280,000 in my town thats over 1/2 a million Dollers in your money.

Then we get stung for moving costs legal fees etc.

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February 19, 2004 at 11:22 pm #3045

Dave
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Scandinavia, WI

Good Grief! LoL yes that’s a truck load of money.

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