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ok i guess i didnt explain it that well when i logon and no one is in the chatroom i see that im an op but when someone else logs on they all see ~Sesshomaru and when they try to pm me it says no such nick/channel also when i talk it shows my name as Sesshomaru/#Sesshomaru. if i logoff and someone is still in the chatroom it still shows that ~Sesshomaru is there and i tried the ghost command and it said nick Sesshomaru isnt currently in use. then if someone is in the chatroom when i log back on it shows @Sesshomaru and still shows ~Sesshomaru and i tried the ghost command again and it kicks @Sesshomaru but not ~Sesshomaru it still shows it there. ok i hope that clarifies my problems.